Point-to-Point. Turn left Dutchess Rail Trail is a point-to-point trail that takes you by a river located near Lagrangeville, New York. To reach this parking lot from I-84, take Exit But I could see this being pretty spectacular in the Fall, and its very quiet and peaceful. My only critique is that the trail does not connect at the Brewster (east) end with any of the Westchester county trails. Drop me a line (please!) Help defend and expand trails nationwide. The paved piece (1.8 miles) outside of Hopewell is paralleled by a packed dirt / pea gravel lane, I assume might be for horses?? Since the locomotives can't manage hills, the railroad builders levelled the right of way. In Holmes, the trailhead can be found near the intersection of State Route 292 and Holmes Road. Whether you're looking for an Groups and organizations looking to hold special events must obtain a permit. Get ice cream or a slice at the frozen caboose! Definitely picturesque, quiet and peaceful I did this from south to north with two other trials. You can continue on the Hudson Valley Rail Trail through Highland to Lloyd, NY. This trail, combined with the majestic Walkway Over The Hudson and the Hudson Valley trail, make this 37 mile round trip the best rail trail within 100 miles of NYC. (SR 55) This would,currently as of 06-15-11,make 10.7 miles total of open rail trail. Ride with Us - Hopewell Junction on the Dutchess Rail Trail About 65 minutes to the turn around point, very leisurely done but flew back to Hopewell Junction at 17 mph and 40 minutes. The Harlem Valley Trail from Taconic State Park to Wassaic (Metro North Station) spans 24 miles through beautiful farmland and marshy areas with Mountain ranges on both sides (Berkshire and Catskills). The Maybrook section of the bike path would pass them on the opposite shore. All kinds of folks and wildlife on the trail. We were there on a Tuesday and hardly met anyone. It is wide, flat and has great shade. WebThe Town of East Fishkills hamlet of Hopewell Junction takes its name from the junction of the historic Newburgh, Dutchess and Connecticut railroad line with the New York and This 13.4-mile continuous paved trail runs from the Walkway Over the Hudson (with a direct link to the regional trail network) to the restored Hopewell Depot at its East Fishkill Trailhead in the hamlet of Hopewell along the former Maybrook Rail corridor through the towns of Poughkeepsie, LaGrange, Wappinger and East Fishkill. Run down the stairs around the corner on Rt 6 up the hill towards Brewster Honda back up the steps and continue to dead end/turnaround by Exit 10 ramp close to Danbury border. Of course these attributes means it can get a little crowded by mid-afternoon on a weekend, but that's easily avoidable by starting early. Some sections of the trail can be quite remote; Ive ridden miles without seeing another biker/runner. Join TrailLink (a non-profit) to view more than 40,000 miles of trail maps and more! There are mile markers but they are easy to miss and I wasn't quite sure what they were counting up or down towards as they did not start at 0. Wonderfully done. Become a member and wear your FREE T-Shirt with pride. Join a supporting community of travelers and adventurers sharing their photos and local insights. The last part goes thru a simsbury park, there are a lot of roots, gotta be careful. in the town of Poughkeepsie.This section of the RT opened to the public in June,2009.This section will remain as an isolated section until the completion of phase 4, which will include a 900 foot long bridge over a 4 lane state hwy. Whether you're getting ready to hike, bike, trail run, or explore other outdoor activities, AllTrails has 3 scenic trails in the We travelled 3 hours for this trip and it was worth it. If you are in the area I would highly recomend you take the time and visit this rail trail. It is obvious the volunteers who take care of this trail do a great job (thanks, Ron! According to the preliminary construction timeline on the website, it is scheduled to be open in January (winter/spring) of 2021. The directions are spot on. This is a new adventure! Very scenic trail though residential and park like areas including a nice section through a swamp area - bring your bug repellant. I think just about every level crossing has a portalet, even the ones without parking. Be the first to leave a review! In all almost a 18 mile ride one way. Would like to take this time to thank all that help keep this trail in the wonderful condition that it is in. Explore the rich history of the area through our interactive museum and through the restorations of the Depot, Tower and soon to be Caboose. Sleepy starts to describe it, but theres something more. Because thats when Governor Cuomos ambitious plan, announced last month (February 2017) and approved last week, is to be complete. I was unable to find any access point to this trail in August 2015. If the sponsorship helps maintain the trail, so be it. The trail from end to end (18 miles) is perfectly paved with numerous bridges and parking access points scattered about all in pristine condition. Now youll find an opening in the fence, and the trail continuing. Pedestrians are great, with only bikes there is a lot less stress about passing. Even a few hours a month will make a huge difference for the Hopewell Depot Museum. Currently the paved section that heads north stops underneath Tonetta Lake Road which is just south of I-84. Road this entire trail this past week as an out-and-back from Brewster. There were a few scenic areas but I was expecting more. I did the 3 trails which combine to 18 miles in each direction. Trail was scenic and smooth with few and easy road crossings. The trail starts at the Charcoal Burners Trailhead Route 301. Since it was paved with asphalt last year, this is a very smooth trail. We past some interesting caves with cold air which was a nice surprise. A very well constructed and maintained rail-trail in Dutchess County, NY. Ive been riding this trail weekly since June 2021. Just tried the trail for the first time doing the first 10 miles from Southeast Town Park. Great trail. I cannot wait! Im not sure if they are bike messengers or just has beens trying to live out their dreams of being in the Tour De France, but their speed and shrill shouts of Left, Left, Left! piercing the crisp fall air can really ruin what is otherwise a beautiful and relaxing family outing. Unfortunately, there are older segments that sorely need maintenance, especially the roughly 4 mile stretch from Taconic State Park south. Diddell Road Trailhead in Good food and drinks. I also love walking In Mathews park although that is more of a city trail to me not as much nature as these are concrete paved and you pass near traffic and such. The parking area is at the very end of Sunnyside Road in Beacon, along with the information board at the trailhead. Miles of secluded, smooth, paved trail. Since then, they have done exactly that and I find that the William Steinhaus Dutchess Rail Trail is the best trail I've ridden yet! It is one great trail and it connects with the walk over the Hudson. All in all, a really nice trail, good variety of sections and sights. Enjoy and don't believe the haters! 55 behind Page lumber - parking and trailhead access) The rail trail now includes educational interpretive signs,directional-mileage signs at intersections and engraved wood mileage markers.There is parking,trail access,and a kiosk at Diddell Rd. At the end of the trail in Hopwell Jct there is a restaurant called "daddy". - the NEW wood mileage markers DO NOT coincide with the OLD green metal mileage markers. From Brewster you ride northward past Ice Pond with its very long straight stretch (one mile?) The sound of birds above you as you take this hike its pretty impeccable. In some section you're secluded (so be mindful) if alone. Turn right onto NY 9G, which becomes Washington St., for 0.6 mile. Well worth a light rain to get wonderful fall color photos. There is also a grocery plaza a couple of blocks south (about 1/4 mile) of the HJ depot. Had a great ride along the Dutchess Trail. I just want to thank Mr Steinhaus for his great for his great work in making this trail a reality. Being 100% volunteer you can rest assured that when you donate your money goes 100% to maintaining and enhancing the Depot. It's well paved, shaded most of the way, and there are only slight changes in elevation, so though it's a long ride it's doable by most. Kudos to that politician it is named after. Copyright 2017 | All Rights Reserved. Im photographing towns, villages, hamlets and parks surrounding and connected by the proposed Empire State Trail this summer (2017). The last stretch, the Hudson Valley trail, isn't as well paved, but it's pretty short and still nice to ride. The swamp was huge and there were lots of historical signs. You walk down a flight of steps, ride down Peaceable Hill Road to Rt. This trail was incredible when it opened, helped me train for marathons, triathlons, and got me in shape. Its well maintained with plenty of benches to rest and a mixture of sun and shady spots. in the town of Poughkeepsie. After pushing my bike uphill for a stretch it wasnt clearing. Took my two nieces who are new to bicycling on this trail and we had a great time!!! Basically brand new, uncrowded, lots of interesting sights along the way including multiple water views and lots of greenery. Both rail trails (Dutchess & Maybrook) are so much fun! Continue on US 9 N for 14.4 miles to NY 9G in Poughkeepsie; you will travel under the Walkway Over the Hudson on the way to this exit. The trail climbs steeply to some old ruins of a casino. Explore the best rated trails in Hopewell Junction, NY. Recommended option. I WILL SEND PHOTOS AS WELL . Highly recommend. But maybe that is coming. The trail would stretch for 750 miles,the longest in the country. Many lakes. While a fire station advertised a fish-fry, jaunty old barns tilted in the grass. Highly recommend. They bought it, but never really used it. Pretty, shady, flat. We mapped it using RTC's directions to the endpoint in Hopewell Junction. (Please DO NOT PARK at the apartment building at the corner of SR-292 and Holmes as that is private property.). WebEasy 4.5 (757) #1 - Dutchess Rail Trail Hopewell Junction, New York Length: 12.9 mi Est. Took time and thanked both for what they where doing. Train, taxi A black fence is up next to the tracks, but the terrain is rocky, and it's not smooth-paved asphalt surface yet. The Dutchess County Trail was in really great shape. Okay, I road the whole trail, but on 2 days separated by a month. While she said they hope to have it open by May 15th, it should be definitely in service by June 1st. I could see some places where there was a fence separating the trail from the railroad, but there was no way to get to the trail that I could find. The landscape of the area shimmers with grassy hills and forests, green pines lining paddocks. In Pawling, just north of Whaley Lake, the trailway intersects with the Appalachian Trail. Rode the Maybrook trail for the first time this morning starting in Brewster, going north. Always practice Leave No Trace ethics on your Frequently asked questions about wheelchair friendly trails in Hopewell Junction. I asked a policeman if he knew how to get to it, but he said it was not open yet. The Walkway Over the Hudson is stunning and there are snack trucks and compost toilets just over it as you cross westward. The train service once took passengers from Brewster to Hopewell Junction and beyond. WebExplore the most popular trails in my list Hopewell rail trail with hand-curated trail maps and driving directions as well as detailed reviews and photos from hikers, campers and County Exec. Great trail with beautiful views. THER ARE A LOT OF INTERPERTIVE SIGNAGE ALONG THE WAY WITH INTERESTING PHOTOS AND INFO . I HOPE TO CONTINUE THIS RIDE TO THE END POINT IN THE FUTURE. Great for family. The walkway over Hudson and Hudson valley rail trial that finishes in Tony Williams park. After many years of driving over an hour from NJ to Turner st in Hopewell Junction to ride the Dutchess trail to Walkway Over the Hudson - it was fun to go south / east in the other direction. The only thing that would be great to see would be mile markers. Our mission at Hopewell Depot Museum is to provide a historic museum and park for the education and recreation of the community of Hopewell Junction, the town of East Fishkill, and Dutchess County. In Hopewell Junction, the trail ends at the Hopewell Depot, standing since 1873, which now houses a museum and historical photo gallery. The trail delivers on attractive scenery and storied railroad history of the Hudson Valley, running through woodlands, along picturesque lakes and across iron truss bridges. Except for either end, it is a somewhat secluded trail and very quiet. The pond is crystal clear and has a wonderful tree line right on the water. The parking lot at Overocker road is small. William Steinhaus, et al - great job! Multiple benches if you run out of steam or just want to sit. I'll be avoiding the section from Wappingers to Fishkill from now on, it's far too depressing. I rode this trail yesterday in combination with the Walkway over the Hudson and the Hudson Valley trails. Events. The sound of nature puts yourself outside your busy lifestyle and into nature. WebExplore the best rated trails in Hopewell Junction, NY. Phase 4, already planned, will be for a new bridge over SR 55 and will connect the phase 2 section with the southern section. Very flat most of the way, goes behind several commercial areas, some municipal equipment lots, and neighborhoods. So you could ride more than 100 miles paved off-road. This is a very nice paved trial so if you have a race bike some good training here. where trail users are greated with a restored board and baten station that is the cat's meow! The trail is paved and generally flat, making accessible to a wide range of users, including walkers, cyclists, skaters, cross-country skiers and snowshoers. A number of websites seem to indicate the path is still under construction and not yet open to the public but MTA does not seem to restrict access. Using I-84 take exit 21 towards Rt 202. Permit requires a fee and submission of required insurance. To be expected. [2] It is part of the Poughkeepsie Newburgh Middletown, NY Metropolitan Statistical Area as well as the larger New York Newark Bridgeport, NY- NJ - CT - PA Combined Statistical Area . 07/29 would begin the actual placement of the bridge sections - on Wed. 07/31 should be the installation of the final bridge section over the hwy. Having previously ridden from Lake Tonetta to Whaley Lake, I was familiar with the basic trail..gradual uphill from Lake Tonetta to Whaley Lake, gradual downhill then from Whaley Lake to Hopewell Junction. In Trail is flat and Not ready for biking at this location YET, but it will be fun to watch things progress from here, and eventually connect up to the Putnam Trailway (http://www.traillink.com/trail/putnam-trailway.aspx). Beautiful trail, clean and well kept and super clean bathrooms in Hopewell Junction. I only wish it were more scenic but very happy we chose this way to ride. Bring sunscreen very open, lots of sun. At the outset of the bike ride, there was plenty of parking and ample room on trails to bike side by side and have a chat while riding. One of the things I really liked is the lack of level crossings making this more of a bikers trail than a walking trail with a lot of trail where you will only see bikes for a few miles. of Lloyd Tony Wiliams park Ulster county - 18 mi. Quite a long uphill stretch. Started in Niverville and headed south to Valatie, then back north to North Chatham and back to Niverville. NOTE:mile 0.0 has been changed a tad and the RT is now shorter by .1 mi. Most oddly, I had noted on the south side the new grade was offset from the grade on the north side. Check the Empire State Trail website for more info. Parking for Holmes access is at the Community Center on 292 (not the apartment building on the corner) unless you want to get towed, they aren't very nice about it but can't really blame them. North County Trailway. It is snow and ice-free at this time. There is a bar & grill type restaurant adjacent to the trail at HJ. What a great treasure this rail trail is to the Hudson Valley..absolutely love it!!! Through the trees, I could see a giant old trestle bridge. Railroad companies have abandoned thousands of miles of track since the 1930s as Americans and manufacturers became less reliant on train travel. Or Whaley Lake? Mostly covered by trees with a wide paved surface. Started at Hopewell Junction and rode to the bridge and over. Today we rode from the Brewster trailhead at Lake Tonetta both ways: Out and back to the CT line, and then out and back in the other direction up past the Ice Pond, for a total of about 20 miles. empiretrail.ny.gov/ Shared By: Walt T. Full Details. Beautiful!!! It is worth the short trip everytime I go there. From the dirt parking lot take the trail off to the right. This rail-trail has the distinction of having the longest rail-trail bridge in the world! Together, the three rail-trails were welcomed into Rails-to-Trails Conservancys Rail-Trail Hall of Fame in 2016 and offer a seamless, combined route of just over 20 miles. It was a nice leisurely ride up to Walkway on the Hudson in Poughkeepsie. With more than We just finished riding this trail yesterday 9/9/19 and we have to say this is the best maintained paved trail we have ever rode our bikes on. adventures and follow local regulations. With And decent parking. site for this RT and the Harlem Valley RT clearly states that phase 3 would be completed by the end of THIS year.However,with all the work YET to be done, and the soon-to-be Winter weather,perhaps the DC trails site should have read "phase 3 completion at the end of 2011"? The Train fare to Hopewell Junction costs about $4.25 - $25.75. Enter your Tweet. The first part to Whaley Lake passes several nice ponds with some hills in the background. Got to the Walkway and were rewarded with a great view and friendly folks! At the South end where the Hopewell station is located it looks like an extention to the trail is under construction. One of the best trails I have done. Once on Lake Wilton Rd., don't follow the directions when it tells you to turn on Cottage Dr. My friend and I started at Hopewell Junction and glad we did. being an old RR grade, the slope is not perceptible, except at certain road crossings where a RR bridge used to be. Dutchess Rail Trail: Hopewell Junction to Poughkeepsie (13.5 mi.) Recommend Leisure Bike Shop in Poughkeepsie - right along the trail - for bike repairs. The unfortunate part is that over the last year the trail has become nothing more than a place to honor dead loved ones and promote businesses. There is an unmarked road section leading to another flight of steps on East Main Street (bypassing an unusable trestle). ON A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN AUGUST I LINKED UP 2 MORE TRAILS TO THIS ONE. But hardly noticeable. Views include the Green Haven Correctional facility in Stormville, with its imposing and very high walls, and inmate sounds from inside those walls. The trail is mostly wooded and there is not much to see as far as scenery but if you looking for a level smooth place to ride, this trail is a great choice. We had to walk our bikes most of the way over. My estimate is that trail will be mostly shady before noon but will be lots of sun in the afternoon. Web4 Westchester North County Trail Elmsford to New Castle; 5 Westchester North County Trail & Putnam Trailway New Castle to Mahopac; 6 Putnam Trailway Mahopac to THE TRAIL WAS PAVED ALL THE WAY AND NICELY SHADED WITH RASPBERRIES GROWING ALONG THE SIDES, I RETURNED TO THE START OF THE WALKWAY OVER THE HUDSON TRAIL WHICH WAS CROWDED BUT THAT WAS TO EXPECTED SEEING ITS POPULARITY AND GREAT VIEWS. Across from the depot, visitors will also find a replica switching tower. 2023 The Outbound Collective - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy. 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